From Soldier to Shaman: A Veteran’s Sacred Mission to End Suffering – An Interview with Robert Hudson

How does a combat veteran, shaped by trauma, medication, and years of emotional disconnect, awaken to become a vessel for intergalactic healing? 

For Robert Hudson, the path from military service and a decade of therapy to becoming a shamanic guide wasn’t linear—it was forged through profound suffering, an unshakable desire for connection, and an unexpected call from the spirit world.

What began with a single breathwork session soon unraveled everything he thought he knew about identity, love, and healing. Guided by his Pleiadian spirit family, Robert now channels ancestral wisdom, facilitates transformative ceremonies, and helps others reconnect with their true selves. In this conversation, he shares the remarkable moment he first left his body, how he became an “intergalactic shaman,” and why his deepest mission is to end human suffering—one soul at a time. Continue reading or listen in by subscribing for free on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or YouTube.

I want to hear about your story of awakening to consciousness, mindfulness, spirituality. Did you grow up in a home that had some sort of spirituality or faith? And maybe tell us where you grew up as well?

Robert Hudson: Yeah, not at all. I grew up in a place called Arlington, Texas. If you’re familiar with the Dallas-Fort Worth area, it’s right in between the two—like a halfway point.

It was a pretty standard childhood. I played outside, played sports. My dad worked two, three, sometimes even four jobs just to take care of us. He was a single father, so he wasn’t around much, but he taught us what he could. He gave us the basics: look people in the eye when you shake their hand, do what you say you’re going to do, things like that.

But honestly, there wasn’t a lot of structure in the home beyond the expectation to bring home good grades. There was absolutely zero religion growing up. I didn’t even get my first taste of anything spiritual until I was a full-blown adult.

And when was that? How did that come into your life?

Robert Hudson: The first time was when I was in the Army during boot camp. On Sundays, they’d let people go to church—it was kind of like a break. You got an hour where someone wasn’t in your face yelling, sometimes even longer. So, I started going.

There’s a saying in the military: “There are no atheists in foxholes.” I tried to make it a thing, but honestly, I was only connecting to it logically. I never actually felt anything. I was trying to reach it through my brain, and because of that, it never really gripped me. If that makes sense.

At what point did that begin to open your heart and spirit?

Robert Hudson: It really started with breathwork. That was when things shifted from what I’d call dogmatic religion to something else entirely.

The first time I did breathwork and got into a deep meditative state, I realized—for the first time—that I was disconnected from my spirit. I could feel that my body and spirit weren’t aligned. It was a very powerful experience. And it’s the same for a lot of people I’ve worked with since then.

I think it’s because most people are going about their day-to-day lives not even knowing they have a soul. They’re conducting themselves as if there’s no soul within them. But when you feel it—when you experience your soul for the first time—and you know that you are more than just your body and mind, it’s earth-shattering.

For me, that was the moment of awakening—through breathwork. That was the first time I knew I had a soul, and that mind, body, and spirit are truly three distinct aspects of our being.

What inspired you to try breathwork for the first time?

Robert Hudson: When I was discharged from the Army, I was medically retired. I’d been injured in combat, came home, had multiple surgeries, went in front of a medical review board, and they told me I was done. So I went home, and I struggled for several years.

One thing I stayed consistent with, though, was mental health treatment. I was in therapy pretty regularly for about a decade. On top of that, I was heavily medicated by the VA—at times, up to six different medications. My diagnoses were traumatic brain injury and PTSD, which were the major ones. The VA relies heavily on pharmaceuticals.

Eventually, the combination of therapy and medication just wasn’t working. I felt like a zombie. There was no real progress in my relationships, and deep down, I’ve always craved an authentic connection. But for a long time, I couldn’t access that. After more than ten years, I realized I needed something else. I didn’t know what, but I knew what I was doing wasn’t working.

When I say it wasn’t working, I don’t mean some parts were better and some weren’t—I mean across the board, nothing was improving. The only “improvement” was that I was being medicated into submission. The meds numbed me so much that I just withdrew from everything, and I hated that feeling.

I remembered what it was like to be in my mid-20s, thriving physically in the Army, full of energy and vitality—and I couldn’t get back to that version of myself. It was incredibly frustrating.

One day, I was sitting in my chair, and I thought, “I have to do something different.” Just focusing on the mind wasn’t cutting it. And in a way, that moment was prophetic—because what I needed was to get out of my mind and reconnect with my spirit.

That same day, I got a phone call from another Army veteran. He had just left a breathwork and meditation session in Austin, and he was using language I’d never heard from him before—talking about the universe, spirit, love. It was wild hearing that from him, and I thought, You know what? Let’s roll the dice.

At the time, I was still living in the DFW area. I booked two sessions that weekend, drove down, and had my first in-person breathwork and meditation experiences. And that was the turning point. That’s where it all began.

What did you feel? What did you experience? What happened to you?

Robert Hudson: Yeah, I left my body—from a spirit perspective. I was able to look down at my physical body and realize that I wasn’t the vessel lying on the ground. I was the one observing it. That was a massive shift in perspective for me. That moment is when I truly fell into the knowing that—oh, I do have a soul.

Before that, I used to say I was a human who could occasionally have spiritual experiences. But after that first session, I knew the opposite was true—I was a spirit having a human experience, not the other way around. And the very first thing I said to the facilitator when I came out of it was, “Oh… my definition of love just changed.”

I mean, I had said “I love you” to a lot of people—my parents, girlfriends, close friends, guys I served with. But in that moment, I realized that what I had meant when I said it before wasn’t what I just experienced. What I had just felt was a whole different level of love. It was… wow.

And so you went through a couple of sessions that weekend. What then began to unfold in your life?

Robert Hudson: Yeah, this work is like a magnet. A magnet can do two things: it can attract or repel. I see this happen all the time. Someone will experience something like this, and then they run as fast as they can in the other direction because it’s scary. It can feel too big, too unbelievable.

For me, though, it was different. I often describe my brain as a Google browser with a thousand tabs open. But after those sessions, I experienced moments of no thought, quiet, peaceful moments. And I started seeking that.

As a result, it became easy to wake up every morning and practice breathwork for an hour. I’d breathe for 20 to 30 minutes, then drop into meditation for another 20 to 30. Every morning, that hour became my practice.

That first year and a half was all about learning, understanding, and shifting perspective. I began having very different conversations with people, reanalyzing my environment, and noticing who I was surrounding myself with. I was incredibly curious and began reevaluating many of the beliefs I once held tightly. Some views were reinforced, but many were completely challenged.

If you looked at my social media from 2020 to now, you’d think it was two different people. The shift in how I see the world, how I express myself—it’s been that profound.

So that first year and a half was filled with curiosity, peace, and this unfolding realization that I  do have a soul… and that I’m here having a human experience. That truth didn’t fully click for my “person” right away—it was something that took time to integrate.

And I think that’s why, around 19 months after that first breathwork session, I had my first channeling experience. It was only once my “person” began to understand all this on a deeper level that the next door opened.

What were the surroundings of that? Was medicine involved? Were you meditating? Were there other people there? What happened?

Robert Hudson: It’s actually kind of a funny story. My first channeling experience happened on Father’s Day, two years ago. I come from a pretty big family—I’m one of seven—so that year, all of us, plus our kids and nieces and nephews, rented a huge lake house in the Ozarks in Missouri to celebrate together.

I was living in Florida at the time and drove up to Missouri for the trip. Since I knew I’d be in this beautiful place with over a thousand miles of shoreline, I brought some plant medicine with me. It just felt like the right environment to have it with me. So yeah, I had some, and there were a lot of people around—probably around 20 of us in the house.

It was a massive house, and I didn’t get a bedroom because I arrived a bit later due to work. So, I ended up sleeping on a pull-out bed in the basement, which was located on the lower level that led directly to the water. Everyone else was upstairs—I was the only one on that entire floor.

That night, really late, after everyone had gone to bed, it started. I’m not even sure if I fell asleep—I just know it wasn’t a dream. I was fully aware. They—whatever “they” were- stood me up, controlled my body, and made me walk over to a clock and say what time it was. Then they had me open the fridge to feel something cold, go outside to put my feet in the water, just to show me—if you were dreaming, you wouldn’t be doing this.

Then they brought me back inside and began the real part of the experience. I still have a note on my phone from that night. They allowed me to write things down so I could share them with my “person” the next day. But interestingly, there were also things they wouldn’t let me write.

It was such a unique experience, not being in control of my own body. That alone was wild. I remember at one point they laid me back on the couch, and even though all of this had happened, I was still trying to convince myself it was just a dream.

And then this random memory popped up—an old NSYNC music video from when I was in high school. The song was Bye Bye Bye, and in the video, they were on puppet strings being controlled by a giant being. That image flashed through my mind as they were telling me, “We have control of your body.” And they put me into that exact position—just like Justin Timberlake in the video—playing around, showing me, Look, you’re on puppet strings. It wasn’t scary—it was playful. I was laughing, they were laughing. It felt lighthearted, not threatening.

Was your family watching that?

Robert Hudson: No. That’s the thing—I asked, “What if someone comes down here and sees this?” And they told me, We’re not letting anyone come down here. No one’s going to catch us. We’re good. They were very clear that this was just between them and me.

And honestly, I never felt afraid. The very first thing they communicated—once I was conscious enough to start asking questions or thinking clearly—was a sense of calm. They communicated telepathically, so everything I thought, they responded to. Everything I said or wrote, they responded to.

It was a unique experience that lasted for quite a while. In Earth time, it lasted about 90 minutes.

What did they say?

Robert Hudson: Nothing. I didn’t tell anyone. I didn’t share that story for a year and a half.

Do you channel regularly now, with or without medicine? And if so, for what purpose? Do you sense that that’s happening?

Robert Hudson: Yeah, I can. When I first started channeling, I was connecting with my guides—there were three of them. The main one was a feminine presence named Axie. She’s from where I’m from, and she and the others were sent here with me to watch over me and protect me.

But more than that, I was sent here for a specific mission, and up until those early channeling experiences, I wasn’t evolving fast enough to begin that work. That’s why they showed up—to push me forward. I channeled those guides regularly for a while, but I haven’t connected with Axie since late last year.

Now, when I channel, I’m working with my spirit family—there are seven of them. They’re my elders, and they’re all shamans. I channel them during the ceremony to support whatever client I’m working with at the time.

Initially, when I was speaking in light language and undergoing sessions with my practitioner, I was grateful to have someone help me process it all. It was intense—especially the parts where I wasn’t in control of my body, or was receiving daily instructions. They kept telling me, Breathe, you need to breathe.

What they were doing was helping me clear the channel. They wanted me to receive the message of what I was sent here to do, and to undergo my initiation ceremony with my elders—my spirit family—to step into my role as a shaman here on Earth.

Yes, I do take plant medicine during ceremonies when I’m doing this work, but I don’t need medicine to communicate with them. They’re always with me. If I want to ask them something or talk to them, I can.

At what point did you begin to sense that you were called to do this work? I know you have a “day job,” but you’re investing so much of your life in serving other people. When did you sense that calling?

Robert Hudson: Yeah, it wasn’t so much a sense—it was a message. They told me directly.

When they started instructing me to breathe and to take care of my vessel, that’s when it began. Before I moved to Texas, I wasn’t taking care of myself at all. I’d gained a lot of weight—around 265 pounds. But once I got here, the message was clear: Take care of the vessel.

That meant eating better and practicing conscious consumerism—not just with food, but with everything I consumed. What was I taking in through my eyes, my ears, my skin? We consume with all our senses. So, I became very intentional about what I was watching, listening to, putting on my body, and eating. I started working out. I was breathing. I was clearing the vessel every day.

And once the vessel was clear enough for the message to come through cleanly, that’s when I was told what I was sent here to do: I’m here to serve others.

It wasn’t surprising, honestly. I’ve always wanted to help people. That’s why I joined the military. I’ve always loved protecting others, being there for people, and making sure no one feels alone. That’s always come naturally to me.

So really, it wasn’t a shock—it was more like remembering. That’s been the biggest theme of all of this: remembering who I am and why I was sent here.

You started a business—your work—called Hands of Erra. And one of the ways you describe yourself is as an intergalactic shaman. I’d love for you to explain those words, which you’ve chosen very intentionally. What does Hands of Erra mean? And what does it mean to be an intergalactic shaman?

Robert Hudson: Yeah, great question. Erra is a planet in the Pleiadian star system—it’s where I’m from. My guides, my spirit family, the ones I channel, are all from Erra. So that’s where the name Hands of Erra comes from.

The “hands” part refers to how I work. When I’m doing healing work, I physically place my hands on people. So it’s a very hands-on practice. That’s also why the logo is the Hamsa hand—it all ties together.

As for the “intergalactic shaman” part—yeah, that’s important too. There are shamans here on Earth, and I’ve studied that tradition as well. I’ve taken coursework through the Foundation for Shamanic Studies and learned about Earth-based shamanism.

But the work I do is different. I say “intergalactic” because my shamanic training didn’t come from Earth—it came from my spirit family, the Pleiadians. I come from a long line of them. So the practices, the purpose, the beings supporting me—all of it is otherworldly.

I wanted to make that distinction clear because when people hear “shaman,” they often think of someone in New Mexico or working with tribal communities here on Earth. And while I have deep respect for those paths, that’s not the lineage I’m working from. I needed language that honored the galactic origin of my work.

As this has become such a big part of your life, I assume your family—your siblings—know about what you do now. How have they received it?

Robert Hudson: Not all of them. Some of them know, and some are starting to come around. However, at first, I never pushed it. I didn’t go to people I was close with and say, “Hey, let me work on you.” That didn’t feel right.

Instead, I chose to be very open about it. I started posting on social media about my daily breathwork practice and what was unfolding. I believed that when they were ready, they’d come to me, just like I didn’t find breathwork until I was ready.

Honestly, if someone had come to me five or six years ago and said, “You should try breathwork,” I probably would’ve laughed at them—maybe even made fun of them. My person just wasn’t there yet. I had to go through ten years of therapy and all those medications before I finally hit a point where I said, Enough—I need something else.

So I took the same approach with my family. I don’t hide what I do, but I also don’t force it. And slowly, they’ve started coming to me. My dad came down, and we did a mushroom healing and shamanic ceremony together. My mother and my twin brother have also come to Austin for sessions. My brother’s coming again in a couple of weeks.

So yeah, I don’t think there’s anyone in my family who doesn’t know what I do. But not all of them are ready to engage with it, and that’s completely okay. If they never do, that’s okay too.

Who are the types of people who reach out for your support? I know you primarily work in person in Austin, but you also conduct some online work and host retreats. What kind of individual comes to you, and what are the challenges they’re generally facing?

Robert Hudson: Yeah, I’ve worked with a wide range of people so far—men and women, people with different belief systems. Some still hold to dogmatic religious frameworks, while others identify as atheists. Ultimately, my work is for anyone who is suffering.

And you know this, David—suffering shows up in many forms: physical, emotional, spiritual, mental. There’s also existential suffering, the kind that doesn’t always have a clear name. Hands of Erra and the work I do were created to address all of that. During my initiation ceremony, one of the most powerful and repeated affirmations I had to speak was: I have a desire to end human suffering. I said it so many times I nearly lost my voice.

That’s the heart of it. I had to go through my deep suffering and then learn how to walk myself through the healing process. And now, that’s the path I walk with others.

Austin has a large spiritual community, and I’ve noticed something that happens frequently—someone experiences a spiritual awakening and then immediately wants to serve others. And that impulse is beautiful, but I think there’s a vital step in between: embodiment.

It’s not enough to have a spiritual experience or read spiritual books. The real work is living those truths. If you’re going to guide others, you need to embody what it means to serve, to show up authentically, and to walk the path daily, not just teach it. That’s where I stand firmly grounded.

This isn’t about making money by helping people. I’ve worked with people for free. Because I know what it feels like to suffer, and I know almost everyone I meet is carrying something. Whether I’m walking past them or sitting in a ceremony with them, if they’re suffering in any way, I want to help. That’s what I’m here for.

So no, I don’t filter who can work with me. If you’re suffering in any form—emotional, physical, spiritual, or otherwise—I want to support you.

There’s just one checkbox: Are you suffering or not?

Robert Hudson: And everyone should answer yes.

If the answer is no, you’re probably just blind to the suffering you’re experiencing. So, when someone comes to you, what are the ways that you can help them? I’m guessing it’s a ceremony that includes breathwork, maybe plant medicine. Is that your main approach? Can you walk us through what that experience is like?

Robert Hudson: Yeah, for the shamanic healing sessions, those do need to happen in person. I also lead virtual offerings—right now, I’m hosting a monthly virtual breathwork session for a group of business leaders, tech executives, and real estate professionals here in the Austin area. That’s online for now, but in August, we’re setting up our first in-person gathering for that group in my new space. I’m excited to start welcoming them physically into that environment.

As for the shamanic healing sessions, they’re typically four to six hours long and do include plant medicine. There’s preparation work involved—for both me and the person coming to the ceremony. I’ve done one-on-one sessions, group sessions at retreats, and even worked with couples who want to move through healing together.

I can lead virtual sessions focused on breathwork, meditation, and integration work, especially for those who are curious or just beginning to explore these practices. But for complete shamanic healing work, that’s in-person only. Sessions typically take place at my home in Austin or retreat centers. And if someone is open to it, I’m also available to travel and bring the work to them.

What types of medicine are used? And what does the four to six-hour process entail? I heard you mention that you also take medicine—can you walk us through the flow of the ceremony?

Robert Hudson: We begin by taking the medicine with both the client and me. After that, I led them through a breathwork and meditation session. Once that’s complete—usually about 90 minutes in—they’ll ideally take a second dose, put on headphones with music, lie back down, and begin to go inward.

That’s when my part of the work begins. I’ll tap in and begin the shamanic healing. Even after my portion is complete, some people continue their inward journey for hours, sometimes up to four hours. Others rise a little sooner.

After that, we move into post-session integration. There’s fresh fruit, cheese, and structured water. We might play music, dance, go outside, or move our bodies a little. Or we might just sit and have a conscious conversation. Some clients like to journal or write about their experience. That part is intuitive—it flows based on how the person is feeling. But that’s the general arc of the experience.

Are they ingesting something like two or three grams of psilocybin?

Robert Hudson: Yes, they’re taking a full dose. We usually start with at least two grams—that seems to be a sweet spot for most people. I’ve had clients who are more experienced with psilocybin and want to go higher, and that’s totally fine. We’ll start with two grams, and then if they want to go deeper, the second dose is usually around 1.5 to 2 grams, or more, depending on the person.

And how much are you ingesting—and why do you take the medicine as well?

Robert Hudson: I usually take two grams with them at the start. If I’m working with a larger group—like at a retreat, where I’ve had up to 12 people—I’ll sometimes take a second dose during the session. But for one-on-one or couples work, I typically don’t need to.

The reason I take the medicine is to open the channel fully. When that happens, the Robert Hudson you’re talking to right now kind of steps aside—he goes into the waiting room, so to speak—and my spirit family comes through. There are seven of them: the “big guy” and six others. Which of them shows up depends on what the client needs in that moment.

They come through and take over my body to do the work, pulling suffering out of the body in whatever form it presents, and replacing it with love and healing energy. I’m channeling them. The medicine allows that channel to open fully and stay open for as long as needed. And when the ceremony is complete, that channel closes again.

Often, I’m not fully aware of what happened during the session. I’ll ask afterward, “Hey, what happened?” Because it’s not me doing the work—it’s my spirit family coming through, and I’m just the vessel.

And even with two grams, you’re able to stay outward-facing rather than going inward? Are there moments when you feel drawn into your inner world?

Robert Hudson: Not yet. We’ve been doing these ceremonies regularly for about nine months now, and that hasn’t happened. When the shamanic healing begins, Robert Hudson steps aside. My spirit family takes over, and they know exactly how to use the body.

There have even been some truly unique moments after the ceremony, where they’ve stayed for a bit and experienced things through my body, such as touching a dog or feeling the grass under their feet. Sometimes, they haven’t been in a human body in a long time, so they’re exploring too.

But no—I’m not actively present in the way you’d think. I’m just holding the space as a vessel, and they do the rest. So far, it’s worked exactly the way it’s meant to.

Are your eyes open the entire time, or do they open and close throughout the healing experience?

Robert Hudson: They’re closed the entire time. The only exception is in a retreat setting, when I’m working with a large group, like 12 people on the floor. In those cases, the vessel sometimes has to open its eyes very briefly to see where it’s stepping. But 99% of the time, my eyes stay completely closed.

And what kinds of healing experiences have people had as you’ve worked on them?

Robert Hudson: All kinds—physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual. I’ve seen it all. Some sessions have had a particularly profound impact on me, especially those involving my own family. Working on my father, my mother, and my twin brother was incredibly moving. Hearing about their experiences afterward—how they felt, what shifted—was powerful. And I’ve had similar moments with clients outside my family, whose testimonials are shared on my Instagram and website.

One that stands out happened just a couple of weeks ago. A gentleman came to me who had been in chronic pain and bedridden for over six months. He hadn’t slept through the night in that entire time, wasn’t eating well, and was suffering on every level—physically, mentally, and spiritually. He came to the ceremony in deep pain, really withering away in every sense.

The next day, I got a message from him and his wife. For the first time in over six months, he had slept through the night, with no pain. And now? He’s walking around again, leaving the house, going out to eat. Just last week, they went to a restaurant together. His whole energy is different. He’s waking up each day feeling alive again.

His color is back. He’s doing his breathwork every day. We still talk regularly, and I’m looking forward to seeing him again soon. That one hit me deeply. I’ve experienced pain too—not to his extent, but I know what it’s like to be in bed recovering from surgery, taking painkillers, feeling stuck. So even at a trim level, I could relate. And to witness his transformation—being out of pain, moving again, re-engaging with life—it’s just… wonderful.

How do you maintain a safe environment for people when you’re on the medicine as well? How does that work for you?

Robert Hudson: Do you mean physically safe, or more energetically?

Both. Because I know when I’m on two grams, I’m in it. I can’t imagine stumbling around trying to help someone in that state. How do you maintain that safe space?

Robert Hudson: Honestly, I don’t. They do. I’m just the vessel.

My spirit family is here for one purpose: to help. The goal of this work is twofold: to end human suffering and help people believe again. It’s about guiding them back to who they truly are, helping them remember who they are. And that intention is what shapes the entire energetic field of the ceremony.

I haven’t had a single person walk away saying anything other than that they’ve never felt so safe, so held. That’s the consistent feedback I get. Their goal is always to pour love into the space, to relieve suffering, and to do it in a way that’s completely enveloping. And when they use my vessel to do that, there’s nothing to worry about.

You feel it right away. Every client has. And when they share their experiences with others—which many of them do—that’s the message that always comes through loud and clear: this work happens in a safe, deeply loving environment.

Have you ever had family members or friends participate, not as clients, but as observers? Just holding space and witnessing what’s happening to their loved one? Or do you keep the ceremonies more private and one-on-one?

Robert Hudson: Actually, yes—I’ve had people come and hold space. That same session I mentioned earlier—the one with the gentleman who had been in chronic pain—I invited his wife to attend. We held the ceremony at a mutual friend’s house, a space where they felt comfortable.

It was the gentleman, his wife, I, and another person I was working with. Two of them were just holding space and witnessing the ceremony. At one point, my elder called the man’s wife over and used her as a conduit to transmit something energetically to him. From what I’ve been told, it was incredible to witness.

So yes, sometimes people are simply there to witness and support—and I fully welcome that. Whether it’s a loved one, a friend, a sibling—I think the more love in the room, the better. I’m all for it.

Honestly, it’s so powerful for those who get to witness it. This is sacred work.

Robert Hudson: Yeah, it’s fantastic. And what’s fascinating is that a lot of people—strangers who don’t know each other—describe the same visuals. They discuss these old, almost Aztec-like images — large headdresses and ancient energy. When they describe what they’re seeing—the ones working on them during the ceremony—it often lines up.

These are people who have never met or spoken to each other, yet they’re sharing similar experiences. That kind of consistency? It’s beautiful. It just reaffirms the sacredness of what’s happening.

What’s your long-term vision for your work? Where do you see this going?

Robert Hudson: That’s an excellent question. I hope that one day, I can do this work full-time, just helping people all the time. That’s the dream.

Right now, I’m part of a collective called Nirvana Mind, Body & Soul. We share a bigger vision: to create a conscious community—a place where conscious consumerism is the norm. Where you don’t have to leave the community to get what you need, if you need a dentist, there’s a conscious dentist. If you need food, clothing, laundry, or wellness services, you can find them within the community.

Currently, our collective includes mindset coaches, fitness professionals, a doctor, and a shaman—we’re building something powerful. As we expand, my personal mission stays simple: to help end human suffering.

Every day I wake up, that’s my driving force—how many people can I help today? And that comes from my journey. My person suffered for a long time. I know what that feels like. I know how it affects your energy, your family, your relationships, your job, your entire way of being in the world. That kind of pain can be so heavy.

I don’t want anyone to carry that alone. That’s why I do what I do.

Beautiful. Thank you so much, Robert, for everything you’re doing. Where can people connect with you, whether they want to schedule a session in Austin, attend a retreat, or bring you out to their location?

Robert Hudson: The two best places are my website and Instagram.

The website is handsoferra.org. That’s where you can schedule sessions. For anyone who has never worked with me before, there’s a required 30-minute free consultation—we’ll simply discuss and see if we’re a good fit. You can book that directly on the site.

You can also find me on Instagram at @handsoferra, and from there, there’s a link to the website as well. My personal page is @thetexasshaman, so feel free to connect with me through any of these three methods.

Robert, once again—thank you. I love your vision, and it’s clear you’re living it. It’s been great to be with you today.

Robert Hudson: Thank you so much for having me, David. I appreciate it.