How to Be Happy for No Reason – An Interview with Marci Shimoff

How do you personally define happiness, and how has your understanding of it evolved over the years? 

Marci Shimoff: My definition of happiness is an inner state of peace and well-being that doesn’t depend on your circumstances. Unfortunately, there’s an epidemic of unhappiness in society these days. One out of four women in America is on antidepressants.

I’ve found this is largely because people tend to be on a continuum of happiness. On one side of the continuum, people pursue happiness for what I call “good reason.” I’m going to be happy because I have a good job, because I have money, and I have a nice house, I have family, whatever. There’s nothing wrong with that, except it’s very unstable.

On the other side of the continuum, people pursue happiness for “bad reason,” which is: I feel bad, I want to feel better, so I’m going to use something to make me feel better. So, like overeating, or drugs, or shopping, or addictions – anything that’s not life-affirming.

What I’m after is this unconditional happiness—that inner state of peace and well-being that doesn’t depend on our circumstances. That is the real happiness that we’re all looking for because that’s the one that will last. That’s being happy for “no reason.”

In your book, you share about your early awakening to mindfulness and consciousness. Can you tell us more about that.

Marci Shimoff: I was born depressed. I came out of the womb with existential angst. I had this dark cloud around me from the get-go even though I had great parents and a great family. It didn’t make sense from the outside. And I’ve now come to think that I was carrying, ancestral trauma or perhaps past life PTSD.

I think a lot of people have an experience of, I don’t know why I feel bad, but I just feel this heaviness, and it’s maybe not even mine. But I came in with that. I was always asking my parents, What’s the meaning of life? Tell me about God? And They did their bestto give me answers, but it didn’t satisfy me.

Did they have a faith tradition that they shared during your upbringing?

Marci Shimoff: I grew up Jewish, and they were Jewish. They were, – I would say, more culturally Jewish, although my father was very observant. And I did like the traditions, and it felt like there was, something deep in those tradition that felt resonant with me, but I couldn’t find a way out of that existential angst.

Then one day in the eighth grade, I asked my mom if I could stay home from school. She said, Are you sick? I said, No, not really, but I just don’t feel right. I don’t feel like going, and I’d never done that before. So she said okay.

And I remember sitting up in my parents’ bed, because they had the only bedroom with a TV in it, and I turned on the TV to a channel that we didn’t get – it was The Phil Donahue Show. It was, I think, 1971. And there was this little Indian man in a white robe sitting on a couch speaking about the meaning of life, and his name was Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

As soon as he started speaking, I thought, Oh my God, this is exactly what I’ve been looking for. He understands my questions. I’m not alone. There are answers. At the of the show, I wrote down the name of his book. I didn’t understand that there was a technique that went along with it. He is the founder of Transcendental Meditation. But I didn’t understand that, so I wrote down the name of this book, The Science of Being and Art of Living.

I called up every bookstore and every library in San Mateo, California, where I grew up, and nobody had it. And that was the end of that. I put away that little piece of paper in a drawer and forgot about it.

Three years later, I was walking through downtown San Mateo, and there was a poster in the window of the stationery store. It had a picture of that same man, and it said, Life is here to enjoy. And it said, Come to this lecture. I went to that lecture, and I learned to meditate that weekend. Sixteen years old, I learned to meditate, and that was the first thing that changed my life.

I ended up going to a college where everybody meditated. The staff, the faculty, and the students all practiced meditation twice a day, and that really has been an enormous boon in my life. Now, that didn’t change everything, but that was the beginning.

When did you decide to shift your focus toward using your life in service of others, and how did that unfold?

Marci Shimoff: Well, I’m going to go back to another kind of bizarre, interesting experience that I had when I was around that same age. A friend of mine had taken me to see a motivational speaker named Zig Ziglar. As I saw Zig Ziglar walking that stage inspiring people, I knew that’s what I was supposed to do. I got a vision that I was going to spend my life traveling around the world inspiring people to what’s possible, how to live what’s possible in their life.

I remember going home and telling my parents, I’m going to be an inspirational speaker, and that wasn’t a profession back then. My dad was a dentist, and they wanted me to be a dental hygienist, so they weren’t very pleased about this pronouncement.

Side note:  I was raised in that era when girl s were expected to be the dental hygienist, not the dentist. But my mom said, Well, honey, you love talking, you might as well get paid for it.

And so I knew from a young age that this was going to be what I was going to do with my life.

Of course, it was a weird thing. On top of that, I graduated from this very unusual college called Maharishi International University. But I really wanted to be seen as legitimate and normal, so I decided to go to graduate school at UCLA and got an MBA in training and development.

I started my career facilitating training programs in Fortune 500 companies, teaching communication skills and stress management. I was very grounded in that. But it all began from that visionI had as a young girl.

How did writing become part of your journey? Did you write in a journal or engage in creative writing as a young person?

Marci Shimoff: David, I hated writing. I thought I was a terrible writer. In my twenties, I had a coach that I worked with, and he told me this formula for manifesting. This was way before The Secret was out or anybody really heard very much about the Law of Attraction. He said there are three steps, and I liked these three steps because they rhymed, so the formula was easy to remember.

Intention, attention, no tension. So, intention is to be clear about what it is you want, and I was clear. I wanted to speak around the world and inspire lots of people. I saw myself in front of big audiences. Attention is to put your thoughts, your words, your feelings, and your actions behind it. And no tension is to relax, let go. So, intention, attention, no tension.

I was really good at intention and attention. I worked really hard. I put all my thoughts, words, and feelings behind becoming a speaker who would reach the masses. But I was very bad at the no tension piece. I find that people are usually really good at one of those steps, okay at another, and not very good at the third. And we have to learn which one we’re not so good at. For me, it was the no tension.

One day, I was teaching self-esteem seminars. Jack Canfield, who created the Chicken Soup for the Soul books, was my mentor. He taught me his self-esteem trainings, and I was teaching basically based on his trainings.

During that time, a dear friend of mine came to me and basically said, Marci, you look terrible. She went on to say, You’re really burned out. I can see that you’re trying really hard and hitting your head against a wall, and I’m going to take you away with me on a seven-day silent meditation retreat. I looked at her—her name is Janet Attwood, and she’s also written a number of books, including The Passion Test. I said, Janet, you’re crazy. I haven’t been silent for more than two hours in my life. I’m a speaker. I can’t do silence. She said, No, no, you’re going to come with me.

And off we went on this seven-day silent meditation retreat. And David, on the fourth day, in the middle of one of my meditations, a light bulb went off. I saw the words Chicken Soup for the Woman’s Soul. The only book that was out there at that time was the original Chicken Soup for the Soul book. Nobody had thought of any specialty books, and I knew that was a download, a gift from the Divine. In that moment, I knew that this idea was what would bring me to speak on these world stages I had only dreamed about.

The only problem was I still had three more days of silence. I couldn’t tell anybody about my great epiphany. But as soon as the silence was over, I ran to the closest pay phone—it was 1994—and I called up Jack. I said, Jack, I’ve got it: Chicken Soup for the Woman’s Soul. He said, Oh my God, I can’t believe nobody’s thought of it. He called the publisher. The publisher said, Oh my God, I can’t believe nobody’s thought of it. And there we go.

I signed the contract with Jack, and a year and a half later, in September of 1996, my first book, Chicken Soup for the Woman’s Soul, came out and went to number one on the New York Times bestseller list.

Now, I’m going to take you back since it’s okay here to tell the woo kind of stuff—which I don’t normally share. In 1990, I had a Vedic astrology reading. Now, Vedic astrology is the astrology of East India, and it tends to be very good with timing and predictions around timing. The astrologer had said to me, Marci, you’re going to have a best-selling book in September of 1996.

I said, No way. I don’t write. I don’t like writing. At the time, I was teaching business writing in Fortune 500 companies. That was one of the gigs I had, and I honed my writing skills and all of that, but I didn’t think I was ever going to write books.

And he said, No, no, it’s here—it’s in your chart. September of 1996, you’ll have the best-selling book. And, in fact, September 15th, was when that first book came out in 1996.

Over those six years, how did the reading affect you? Did you hold it in your mind and heart, or did you just let it pass by?

Marci Shimoff: I forgot about it.You know, there’s this great saying, I don’t know who said it: “Luck is when preparedness meets opportunity.” And I feel like that’s what I had. I had prepared myself for this opportunity. I had really followed my heart’s calling, my soul’s calling for my work.

I think that’s one thing that’s critically important: we follow that voice inside. That inner voice that says, “I’m going to be a speaker.” Where the outer voice would go, “Who does that? Who makes a living doing that? Be a dental hygienist!”

But I followed that voice. I worked hard, I prepared, I honed my skill as a writer, because that’s what nature brought me. That’s what the Universe brought me—this writing opportunity to teach writing.

And then I also did those three steps: intention—be clear about what I want; attention—I trained for it; and no tension—I relaxed and let go during that meditation retreat.

And since then, I’ve done a number of meditation retreats, and every great book idea I’ve ever gotten has come during a meditation retreat.

In your book, you mention Jack’s question: “Why do I need you to do this? I can do it myself.” What was your response to that?

Marci Shimoff: That was an interesting thing. I went to meet with him about the book idea, and he did say, “Well, why do I need you to do it?” And I said, “Well, Jack, you don’t, but first of all, that’s my idea. Secondly, I really am a good writer. Third, I’ve spent the last 10 years speaking to women’s audiences. And fourth, I’m a woman.” He said, “Okay, you got me on that.”

So there’s a part where you have to claim, “This is what is for me.” It’s not that he rolled over and said, “Oh, of course, it’s yours.” But when I answered that question the way I did, he said, “Okay,” and we worked on it together, along with Jennifer Hawthorne, who’s a dear friend and was my business partner at the time, and Jack was partnered with Mark Victor Hansen. So the four of us wrote that book.

I will tell you, I consulted with the astrologer before that book came out, and he said to me, “You know, Marci, you’re going to do another Chicken Soup for the Soul book. You could do another one a year later, and it would be on mothers.”

And I said, “Oh, come on, there would already be two Chicken Soup for the Soul books out there. Isn’t that just too much?” He said, “No, no, bring the idea to the publisher.” So we did, and a year later, Chicken Soup for the Mother’s Soul came out and sold three million copies.

I believe in consultants, whether it’s a Vedic astrologer—I still consult with Vedic astrologers all the time on timing of things and opportunities. To me, it’s like if you want to sail, you start sailing when the wind is good, when the wind is in your direction. That’s how I look at astrology: you start the timing of things when the wind is in your direction.

I think it’s a number of things. I think it’s using consultants, it’s following your inner voice, it’s taking action, it’s relaxing, letting go, allowing the ideas to come, it’s being surrounded by supportive people who are on your side. So all of those things, I think, are the things that we use to create the life that we are here to live.

What was happening in your life at the time when you were asked to be a part of The Secret?

Marci Shimoff: Well, let me back up just a bit because I think there’s a piece that I want to share that’s important around why I wrote Happy for No Reason.

When I was in my 20s, I did what a lot of people do—I set goals for myself and figured that once I reached those goals, then I would really be happy. And I set five of them. I’ll share them with you, David, because I feel a lot of people can relate:

1. I wanted to have a successful career helping people.
2. I wanted a wonderful husband or life partner.
3. I wanted fabulous friends.
4. I wanted a comfortable home.
5. And I wanted the equivalent of Halle Berry’s body.

Now, I got four out of the five. I don’t have Halle Berry’s body, but I have a healthy body, for which I’m very grateful. I worked really hard to get all my ducks in a row, and by 1998, I had everything I thought I needed. Then I had a very major turning point moment.

It was in June of 1998. I had three books in the top five on the New York Times bestseller list at the same time—one book every year in a row—and all three were in the top five. I had just finished giving a speech to 8,000 people and had autographed 5,432 books. My client even had a massage therapist massaging my hand every 20 minutes so I could keep on signing.

On one hand, I felt like an author rock star. But I remember, after autographing that last book, I went up to my hotel room, which was the penthouse suite the client had gotten for me. I was on top of the world. I walked over to these huge windows overlooking Lake Michigan—I was in Chicago—and I took in that view. Then I turned around, collapsed onto the bed, and burst into tears.

I burst into tears because I realized I had everything on that list I thought I needed to be happy, and I still felt some of that emptiness in my heart that I’d felt as a kid. I realized I could no longer fool myself into thinking that just the next success was going to bring it to me. It was the end of that road. And while I’d been meditating, and that had done a lot for me, it wasn’t the whole picture.

That’s when I decided I was going to figure this thing out. I committed to figuring out what it takes to be truly, deeply, unconditionally happy. I interviewed all the researchers I knew on the subject, interviewed 100 unconditionally happy people, and started doing what they did.

And it worked. I noticed some very dramatic shifts in my experience of happiness and thought, Man, this works. I want to teach this to people. That’s when I wrote Happy for No Reason. It came out and was very successful, for which I feel very grateful.

But it brings me to your question about The Secret.

Before we move on to The Secret, can you briefly walk us through the seven steps from Happy for No Reason? I’d love to hear about the foundation, pillars, roof, and garden.

Marci Shimoff: As I interviewed all these people, I found that there were about 21 habits. I identified 21 habits that they practiced that help their happiness level, and the most cool thing about the research that I’ll share is that we each have what’s called a happiness set point and it’s like a thermostat setting where we tend to hover around that thermostat setting unless we do something to consciously change our thermostat.

Now you have a happiness set point and you might have some great things happen to you. You’re happy for a short time, but then you’re going to return to your happiness set point. Same with when bad things happen – you’re going to generally return to your happiness set point. So it’s the set point, that’s the key and the most important thing in changing our set point, according to research, is our habits, and the biggest difference between happy people and everybody else is that they have different habits. So hallelujah, I can just learn the happiness habits.

There were 21 main happiness habits. I found that they fell into seven main categories, and I know that it’s hard for people to remember seven of anything. So I created an analogy or metaphor so you can kind of remember it, and it’s as you referred to. It’s called “your inner home for happiness.”

A home has a foundation, it’s got four corner pillars, it’s got a roof, and it’s got a garden. And here’s how that relates to building your inner home for happiness. The foundation is taking responsibility for your life and your happiness. It’s basically not being a victim in life. And you know you’re a victim when you’re blaming, shaming, and complaining, but it’s being a victor in life, showing up like I have some responsibility here, that I can take responsibility for my happiness.

Then there’s the four corner pillars, and the pillars are:
The pillar of the mind, your thoughts. Do your thoughts rob you of your happiness?

Your heart. One of the pillars is the heart. I have never met a happy person who had a closed heart. Do you live with an open heart? Do you have kindness, forgiveness, compassion for yourself as well as for other people, generosity?

Then there’s the pillar of the body. Do you have the biochemistry of happiness? Do you have enough of the happy chemicals, the serotonin and oxytocin, endorphins? That was my weakest link, by the way. I suggest that, as I go through these, you think to yourself where am I the weakest? And that’s where you want to start.

And then there’s the pillar of the soul. That’s that sense of feeling connected to the bigger energy of life. Prayer, meditation, that I was strong in.

But then there’s the roof, which is your purpose in life. Are you living an inspired life? Are you doing what it is you’re here on the planet to do?

And then, finally, there’s the garden. Who are you surrounded by? Are you surrounded by lots of weeds, people that drag you down, choke your happiness, or are you surrounded by the roses and gardenias that uplift you?

So those are the seven areas. The foundation is taking responsibility for your life. The mind is your thoughts. The heart is your feelings. The body is your biochemistry. The sou IS your connection to all of life. The roof is your purpose. And the garden is your relationships. For me, I was strong in the soul piece. I was strong in the purpose piece. I wasn’t as strong in the thoughts piece. I had a lot of rotten thoughts, and I wasn’t as strong in the body piece.

I love that statement, “You’ve never met a happy person that had a closed heart.” 

Marci Shimoff: Sometimes it’s that we’re just not letting that life force that beautiful energy of life flow through us because we’re stepping on the hose, but we’re putting our own foot on that hose through our closed hearts.

For example, people that are hanging on and not forgiving are putting their own foot on the hose. Learning how to open your heart is the key to opening up the flow, and there are many practices for doing that. That’s the thing. These aren’t just concepts. I believe in practices. With each one of those 21 habits that I found, there’s a practice that goes with them. So you find where your weakest link is and you’ll be given a practice to help strengthen it.

I think that we are each on the planet with our own curriculum, and when we look outside and go, oh I should be doing that because so-and-so is doing that, or I should be doing that. No, if it’s calling to you, that’s for you. What I really, really know is that we are here to follow our own individual path, So, it’s critical to step off this treadmill of comparison, and let your inner wisdom become your greatest guide.

Was Happy for No Reason the book that led to your invitation to be part of The Secret? 

Marci Shimoff: No, that actually happened before Happy for No Reason. I’d written it, but it hadn’t come out yet. I was and am part of a group called the Transformational Leadership Council that Jack Canfield formed that included about 100 of the top transformational leaders in the world, and Rhonda Byrne, who’s the creator of The Secret, came to one of our meetings and interviewed many of the people there.

I think three-quarters, or two-thirds of the interviews were done at that meeting. I didn’t think anything of it. I’ve done a gazillion interviews and I just didn’t think anything of it. Who knew that this was going to be something? And I knew she had a different energy. She was onto something and she was walking her talk. She was teaching about the law of attraction and she was living that for sure. That was noticeable, but out of the blue, in the fall of 2006, The Secret came out, and now I’m going to get back to my woo part of the story, if I may.

It’s all woo, life is woo, but I don’t often share this part.

In 2003, when I was writing Happy for No Reason, I had written seven Chicken Soup for the Soul books and I was done. I just couldn’t write another Chicken Soup for the Soul book. I knew it was time to do something else, and that’s when I came up with this idea of Happy for No Reason.

But there was this kind of long haul in my career after Chicken Soup for the Soul, and I had a consultation with my astrologer and I said, “Is that it? Am I just a one-hit wonder? And that’s, it’s over?” And he said, “Life works in periods of rest and activity.” He said, “You were in this very dynamic period. You’re now in a more inward period where you’re reformulating and reworking, and you will come back out into the world.”

And he said in the fall of 2006, something will come along that’s even bigger than Chicken Soup for the Soul and it will catapult you back onto the world stage. But even more on your own, not writing the coattails of Jack Canfield and Chicken Soup for the Soul, but in your own name.

And I looked at him and I said, “Come on, what on earth could come along and be bigger than Chicken Soup for the Soul? It was unfathomable, because that book series was just huge.”

And, sure enough, September of 2006, The Secret came along and was seen by I don’t know, half a billion people on the planet or something outrageous. And it did in fact bring me to traveling all over the world to larger audiences than I’d ever spoken to before, audiences of 10,000 people, just really bigger than even the Chicken Soup had brought me to.

So I do believe that there is a destiny that we have and that we interact with that destiny. It’s not completely and totally predetermined, but there are tendencies and opportunities and openings, and so it is our job to kind of get in the slipstream of what is our destiny and really work with that. The Secret was part of that whole stream for me.

What advice would you give someone aspiring to create a platform or message with global influence?

Marci Shimoff: Well, the first thing piece of advice I would give them is to see if that desire for a global influence is coming from an ego place or it’s coming from just a sense of a destiny or a soul place, I don’t think we’re all meant to be on a world stage and I don’t think that that’s any better than somebody who is not. It’s just if it’s what you’re here to do. That was just  the vision I had for my life and it seemed to be in alignment with my destiny.

So, I would really look at first whether you’re coming from a soul place or an ego place and be in tune with what your dharma is. In India, there’s this great phrase in Sanskrit, “dharma.” Dharma means that which upholds life. We come to think of it as our life purpose. In other words, when you’re doing what it is you’re here to be doing, you are doing what upholds life, and then the thing to do is align yourself with the people that will help you the most. You will know who you’re drawn to. I wouldn’t be where I am if it weren’t for Jack Canfield and my relationship with him, but I didn’t do that strategically, I was just drawn to learn his self-esteem trainings. So, you just take the steps in front of you about what you’re drawn to do, and that’s how life to me unfolds.

It’s not that you sit on the couch and do nothing, but you follow the soul voice and you take the baby steps that are in front of you to take. You celebrate the baby steps that you’ve taken, rather than beat yourself up for the steps that you haven’t taken or the distance you still have to go. You celebrate where it is, you are going. And I have a whole methodology I don’t know if you call it methodology. I have a whole program that I created called “Your Year of Miracles.”

And it’s because about 12 years ago, I found myself waking up every morning and feeling like, oh my God, my life is just in this magical flow. Opportunities are coming to me out of the blue. People are coming that are just like – wow, I get to spend my lunch with so-and-so today. That is just the right person for me to be spending time with. And it felt like I was in this place that I’ve come to call the “Miracle Zone,” where synchronicities are happening in your life, where it just feels like you’re in the flow. And it was more than just happy…

It was like, wow I’m just in the flow and I found that there was a way to get in that flow. And in the same way that there’s habits that put you in the state of being happy for no reason, there are certain habits that put you in the Miracle Zone and what’s grabbed my attention over these last 12 years is helping people live in that place I call the Miracle Zone.

There’s a big difference between focusing on personal performance versus serving the people you’ve been called to help.

Marci Shimoff: And that’s the difference between a soul-based intention that you’re here to serve versus an ego intention when you’re here to prove, or to get approval or whatever. And you know, people say that phrase about I’m not enough to do this or do that – a lot of people have that feeling of I’m not enough.

I found that there are three major lies that most people live by and they are:

“I’m not enough.”

“I don’t matter.”

“I don’t have what I need.”

Again, don’t usually say this stuff, but in the last maybe 10-12 years, I’ve been feeling the presence of, specifically, Mother Mary and Mary Magdalene, a nice Jewish girl that was not on my radar and they’ve been sharing messages with me, and one of them is that the three biggest salves that we can embrace these days is

“Unconditionally I am enough.”

“Unconditionally I matter” and

“Unconditionally I have all that I need.”

And that is really more true than the lies, the fear-based lies, that we have lived in, that our society has lived in and that we’ve learned from the time we were born, probably.

So I think now is the time on the planet for this message of

“Unconditionally I am enough.”

“Unconditionally I matter” and

“Unconditionally I have all that I need.”

I notice for myself that when I just say those, my whole body relaxes and I tend to move more into that place of flow of openness, of the Miracle Zone. It puts me back into that energy of flow of love.

There’s the vibration of fear and the vibration of love and what. What I think we are all here for is to learn how to live in that vibration of love.

You mentioned your program called Your Year of Miracles. I want to hear more about that as well as your Happy for No Reason Certified Trainer Program.

Marci Shimoff: Sure, so I do my work on Happy for No Reason. People, a number of years ago, asked me, “Can I teach this? I want to be able to do this in businesses or in schools or with kids or senior centers. I want to teach this.” So I put together a certification program, “Happy for No Reason Certified Trainer Program.” It takes three months. I teach it once a year, and if you are interested in being able to teach this work, I personally train it. It’s a live training on Zoom and it’s a wonderful training.

People have gone on to teach this in all kinds of ways, using it in their businesses in all kinds of ways, so you can go to happyfornoreason.com and learn about that there.

And then the other love of my life is leading this program called “Your Year of Miracles.” It’s a global community. We have thousands and thousands of people. There have been over 40,000 people who’ve been through the program and it’s a year-long program.

We focus on how to live a miraculous life in every area of your life: relationships, health, self-love, success, money. We cover each month a different theme. I co-lead that program with amazing teachers. I call it my miracles dream team: Dr. Sue Morter, Lisa Nichols, Mike Dooley, Lynne Twist, and we also have Lisa Garr working with us in some of the other interviews that we do. 

So, it’s a beautiful program. You also get supported by the whole community for whatever intentions you have, and you get a Miracles Group of four to eight people that – do what we call  “supercharging each other’s intentions.” Anyway, it’s a beautiful, wonderful program and you can find out about that at youryearofmiracles.com. It blows my mind the kinds of miracles that people have in their life from just doing it.

I know you said it’s a year-long program. Does it have a certain start date and end date, or can you join any time?

Marci Shimoff: It starts at the beginning of the year, and we are looking into the possibility of opening it up partway through the year so that we can include people who just hear about it later. So that’s probably going to happen. You can just go to youryearofmiracles.com and get on the waitlist to receive the updates.

We also have a thing called a Month of Money Miracles that you can join, if you just want to focus on that month of money miracles as well.

Marci, it’s so inspiring to hear your story. Thank you for sharing your wisdom, and I would just remind you that unconditionally you are enough and unconditionally you matter, and unconditionally you have everything that you need. All the resources are available to you, so that’s a reminder to you as well.

Marci Shimoff: Thank you. I love hearing that reflection, and it’s true for all of us. And you know, David, I want to leave everyone with one idea, one little thought, and that is people often ask me if it’s selfish to want to focus on happiness or living a miraculous life. You know, what about the rest of the world?

And my response is it’s the least selfish thing that you can do because when we shift, everybody around us shifts. And there’s a beautiful Chinese proverb that I love to share. It goes like this. It says:

“When there is light in the soul, there will be beauty in the person. When there is beauty in the person, there will be harmony in the house. When there is harmony in the house, there will be order in the nation. And when there is order in the nation, there will be peace in the world.”

And my prayer and my wish for every single one of us is that we know that light in our own souls and through that we help contribute light and peace to this planet of ours.

So thank you so much for doing what you do to help people experience the light in their own souls and to bring peace on this planet.

Thank you so much, Marci, really appreciate it.