Mother of Mythbreaking: Challenging What You Believe to Be True – An Interview with Lilly Wong

What if the key to unlocking your purpose is hidden in the myths you’ve been carrying all your life?

For Lilly Wong, the journey from architectural studies and a successful career to becoming the “Mother of Myth-Breaking” was anything but conventional. From mystical childhood experiences of oneness and sacred geometry, to leaving behind the checklist life of career and marriage, Lilly’s path has been one of surrender, deep listening, and radical transformation.

Through visions and intuitive guidance, she now helps others harmonize body, emotions, and thoughts, awaken their uniqueness, and experience the deeper truth of oneness. Her art, teachings, and mentorship programs all flow from this same intention…to bring new wisdom to Earth that has never been here before.

In this conversation, Lilly shares how childhood awareness returned to guide her in adulthood, why breaking myths frees us to live authentically, and how embracing your uniqueness in oneness can lead to a life of co-creation, purpose, and bliss. Continue reading or listen in by subscribing for free on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or YouTube.

Can you tell me about your early days of trying to navigate life—specifically anything related to spirituality, faith, or consciousness? Did you experience those things as a child, or did that come later in life?

Lilly Wong: I did experience them as a child. In fact, I believe I did something very smart back then. When I was five years old, I had a clear memory of knowing why I came to Earth. I understood that I was here to bring new information that hadn’t been present before. As a child, it felt like the most natural thing in the world—just, “Oh, that’s how it is.” But very early on, surrounded by family, school, and society, I remember thinking to myself, I must be on the wrong planet.

What was giving you that feeling?

Lilly Wong: The first time was during my parents’ studies. They were both pursuing their PhDs and master’s degrees, and because they were also students, we spent some time living in France. On one of our vacations, we went to Lourdes, and it became a deeply powerful experience for me. My mother was having a spiritual moment, and for me, it was the first time I felt true oneness.

It was as if I was everything at the same time. I could hear everything—even people’s voices without their mouths moving. I remember thinking, Wow, I can listen to it all. And there was also a voice—what I now recognize as the Divine Feminine—saying to me, All is well. You know why you are here.

I was so young, but I wanted to share this with my mother. I remember tugging at her, saying, “Hey, I can listen to everything.” She just looked down at me and said, “Uh-huh.” She didn’t really understand what I was experiencing.

Did she get it? Did she understand?

Lilly Wong: Not at all. And you have to remember, in Mexico, over 90% of people are Catholic. So when we returned home, I still had many questions that no one seemed able to answer. That’s when I realized something important about myself: I’m very good at hacking systems. Even as a child, I could tell that when I shared what I saw, others couldn’t see the same things.

For example, I was able to perceive geometries around everything—people, plants, buildings. These patterns and shapes were everywhere for me, and I assumed everyone else could see them too. Later, I realized they couldn’t, and that only reinforced my feeling that I might not be on the right planet.

As a kid, were you seeing these geometric patterns and shapes around people, or on top of them? How did it work?

Lilly Wong: It’s geometry. It’s not exactly something you “see” with your eyes—it’s more like a perception, a knowing. The best way I can explain it is by referencing The Matrix. When I first saw that movie, I thought, Wow, that’s it! The more we develop visual effects, the more I can use them to describe my experiences. But really, it’s beyond sight—awareness senses that things are structured that way.

And as you got older, how did this progress for you? Did you keep that ability, or did it fade?

Lilly Wong: That’s why I say I was smart. Even though I felt like I was on the wrong planet, I decided, Well, if I’m here already, let me enjoy it and see what it means. I consciously unplugged a little bit from that awareness. I think it was for the best, because my parents wouldn’t have had the wisdom to accompany me on that journey. Growing up in a more religious environment, I probably would have been misunderstood—or even shut down.

So instead, I asked myself: How does this world work? I noticed my family valued good grades, and in school, it was the same—success seemed to come not from actual learning, but from performing well. So I hacked the system. If good grades gave me freedom, then I would master that.

I had a fast memory. Before a test, I’d study in the morning, then take the test and get top marks. It worked. I ended up the best in my high school, which led to a scholarship at one of the best universities. Good grades became my ticket. But along the way, I began forgetting what my five-year-old self had known so clearly.

I adapted to what I thought I was supposed to do to be happy: study hard, build relationships, and succeed. That’s also how I started learning languages—it seemed like another good thing to do. But one thing never left me: my intuition. That was my thread back to my five-year-old self. My intuition was always strong. I would simply know things—sometimes about people themselves—and I was often surprised when others didn’t know what felt so obvious to me.

How did things begin to unfold for you later in life—when you decided, “Okay, I’m going to embrace this gift, I’m going to embrace my intuition”?

Lilly Wong: Growing up in religion, I always felt I was beyond it. At one point, I even thought, Maybe I should become a nun. But really, I wanted to become a priest. When I asked why women couldn’t be priests, the only answer I got was, Because that’s the way it is. That never satisfied me.

So I threw myself into studies and service. I pursued architecture with the idea of working in social building projects. Helping others always felt like helping myself—it was something innate in me.

By the time I was 33, I had checked off everything on the list: a career, a loving relationship, and stability. But I kept wondering, Why do I still feel incomplete? My partner and I were asking whether to have children, which seemed like the logical next step. But inside I thought, No—I can’t, not if I feel this empty.

I looked outside myself for answers. I earned three degrees, thinking that more education might give me fulfillment. I started a company, hoping that would be it. But nothing filled the void. Until slowly, the voice of my five-year-old self came back—the whisper reminding me, You’re not on the wrong planet. It’s time to remember.

Of course, it sounds beautiful now, but at the time, it was excruciating. I was deeply immersed in what I call “linear life”: a loving relationship, a promising career, stability. How could I walk away from all of that? And yet I did. The result was two years of depression, because I couldn’t understand why I felt so empty even after leaving everything behind. Nothing made sense.

What ultimately helped you get out of that depression and step into your purpose?

Lilly Wong: When I let everything go, I developed a deep pain in my chest. For the first time in my life, I couldn’t sleep. That’s when I finally understood why people suffer from insomnia—it’s unbearable. I realized I couldn’t figure this out with my mind anymore.

At that point, I surrendered. I said, I need help. I didn’t want to numb the pain with medication. I wanted to face it, to see if there was something more. That surrender changed everything.

I left Germany, where I had been married to a beautiful German man, and moved to the island of Majorca. There, I began meeting the right people at the right time. Very quickly, the visions returned. My first was of a majestic eagle, and soon I found myself in conversations and experiences that opened the floodgates. From there, everything began to unfold.

At what point in that process did you make the shift from business and having a job to feeling called to serve others? How did that transition happen for you?

Lilly Wong: The transition was very strong because I left everything behind. In Germany, it meant moving from steady work to freelancing, from being in a relationship to separation, and eventually to divorce.

When I arrived in Majorca, I still tried to hold on. I thought, Maybe I can keep my clients, maybe I can travel back, maybe I can do it online. But when I arrived, I completed one more job—and that was it. For the next four and a half years, before I began serving others, I dedicated myself to figuring out what had happened. Why did I leave what was supposed to be the “right life”? Why did I fall into depression? Who am I? What is all of this?

I began hacking my own system. I asked: Why do I have this body? How does it work? What happens when I move this way? What happens when I nourish it? I had repressed so many emotions, because in my family, only happiness was acceptable—everything else was hidden away. I had to open each emotion, feel it, and understand why it was there.

As I did this, I realized that emotions feel different in the body depending on how pure and nourished it is. When the body is well cared for, it can “speak” to the emotions beautifully. From there, I began noticing how my thoughts emerged from that foundation. I saw that when the body and emotions are in harmony, thoughts naturally expand.

That shifted everything. I realized emotions don’t make us weak—they make us stronger when harmonized. Thoughts are like electricity, emotions are magnetic, and our body is electromagnetic. When all three are aligned, they expand together like the cosmos. The more I harmonized body, emotions, and thoughts, the more the cosmos within me expanded. And the more it expanded, the more wisdom I remembered—the same wisdom my five-year-old self had known: This hasn’t been on Earth before.

At first, I was doing this work for myself. I wanted to understand what had happened. But very quickly, deep wisdom began coming through. Archangel Michael appeared and told me, Please don’t read anything. What you’re going to remember, we’re going to send to you. It’s new—it hasn’t been on Earth before. That was confirmation of what I had always felt.

Soon, ascended masters began arriving as well. I would ask them questions, and they would guide me. Eventually, they said, It’s time for an exchange. We’re giving you this information—now give messages from us to those who cannot hear us. So I began offering personal sessions.

Then one day, Lady Nada—an aspect of Mary Magdalene—came and asked me to share in groups. At first, I resisted. I said, No, no, no, I can do one-on-one, but not groups. But eventually I said yes. And since then, I’ve channeled for groups of 500, even 1,000 people.

Over time, I received so much information that I created what I call a Modern Mystery School—a space to go deeper, to master body, emotions, and thoughts. And I realized something profound: when you share your purpose, your purpose grows.

We often think we have to wait until we’re fully ready—that we need the whole plan or blueprint, like in architecture. But really, the sharing itself expands the work. For me, it was simple: I was having such blissful experiences that I wanted everyone else to experience them too.

I had lived the life that was supposed to bring fulfillment—the checklist of career, relationship, and success. But it never gave me that bliss. What I did was align body, emotions, and thoughts. That’s when everything expands, and you recognize: I am unique on this planet. I am unique in the galaxy, in the universe. And yet, I am always part of the greater oneness.

You are blowing my mind. The process you went through—what you’re describing—is essentially not assuming, “I’m just in this body and everything’s fine.” It’s as if you’ve slowed everything down. Almost as if you came from another planet and asked, ‘How does this work? How does it work here on Earth? 

That’s such a powerful thought, because it makes me ask, Should I be operating the way I always have? Do I want to feel this way? Should I move this way? By removing those assumptions, it’s like breaking out of ruts. You call yourself the “Mother of Myth-Breaking.” How did you take on that identity?

Lilly Wong: Exactly what you’re saying. We have to remove everything we believe we know. Every time I expand, I need to release, because new information requires space. And that’s not easy—we humans are stubborn. We don’t like to release things, even when they no longer serve us.

For me, this process has been lifelong. I’ve been breaking every single myth that lived inside me, every pattern embedded in my field, in my energy, in my consciousness. Looking back, I’ve been doing it my entire life.

What are some of the biggest myths we’re prone to believe?

Lilly Wong: The first is the myth of becoming someone. People say, “I want to become someone.” But that’s a huge illusion. You already are someone. You always have been. Whatever actions you choose will shape your expression in the world, but your essence is already whole. You are your purpose, and that purpose can unfold in endless ways.

I want to become someone. Yes. I had that so strongly when I was 18. I felt I was destined to make a huge global impact. I connected it to becoming a pastor in Christian ministry.

Lilly Wong: Just like me, trying to become a nun.

Yes, except I could become a priest because I was a man. I wasn’t a priest, but I was a pastor for ten years. And I kept trying to “be someone”—to grow the church big enough, to help enough people, to get a book deal. I thought then I would finally be somebody. But it never worked. It only led to my own burnout and breakdown. So what are some of the other myths you’ve seen people fall into? We’ve got the myth of having to “do something to be somebody.” What else?

Lilly Wong: The second big one is the myth of imperfection. People are always striving to be perfect: I have to do this perfectly, I have to get it just right. But striving for perfection assumes that what you are right now is imperfect. And that itself is a myth.

But what if life isn’t turning out the way I wanted? My kids aren’t turning out the way I hoped, my marriage isn’t, and my business isn’t. How do I combat that if those thoughts are in my head?

Lilly Wong: For me, that’s the myth of imperfection. Absolutely everything and everyone is already perfect as they are. When you surrender to that truth, you also realize there is always room to grow, to expand, to improve.

So what’s the difference between being perfect and being able to improve? Because “improve” still sounds like it means something is imperfect.

Lilly Wong: For me, it’s this: everything is fine as it is. And at the same time, we can always ask, How can it be even better? That perspective takes you out of judgment. It’s not; I did something wrong. Instead, it becomes, What was the lesson here? What is the diamond hidden within this? Then you can shift it.

If we obsess over reaching some final state of “perfection,” we miss the point. Life is not about a finished product—it’s about the path, the ascent, the journey itself.

So one myth is: “If I do this, I’ll finally be somebody.” Another is: “Everything has to be perfect.” What’s a third?

Lilly Wong: The third myth is the idea that we have to chase spiritual experiences or transcend this human life. People often ask me, How do I start talking to angels, or aliens, or fairies? My answer is always: they started talking to me. I didn’t pursue it—it came as a result of alignment.

It’s not about doing something to get a certain result. It’s about harmonizing body, emotions, and thoughts so deeply that truth naturally reveals itself. Many people say, I’m ready to go home, meaning they want to escape the human experience. But I say, Bring what you call home into your real home—your body, here and now.

The bliss you feel in meditation, bring that into daily life. Infuse it into everything you do. That, to me, is what we came here for: to embody that blissful state in every moment of our human experience.

Why is it so important to break these myths? What’s the point? If I’m living with certain assumptions, why should I let them go?

Lilly Wong: Because when you do, you discover grace from within. You uncover a deep inner peace that doesn’t depend on outside circumstances. One of the biggest myths is tying happiness to external things: When I get this, when this happens, when this doesn’t happen—then I’ll be happy.

But true fulfillment comes from aligning within. If you don’t break the myths, your body may go one way, your emotions another, your thoughts a third—and you feel fragmented. When you release those illusions, body, emotions, and thoughts come into harmony. And when they align, something inside explodes with life.

That inner expansion carries you through challenges. Especially now, when we’re experiencing global and planetary upheaval, the ability to vibrate at a different state of consciousness is essential. It becomes contagious—you invite others into it. And your whole life transforms. You not only navigate it better—you enjoy it more.

Talk to me about oneness—about evolutionary intelligence. What is that?

Lilly Wong: That’s exactly what I’ve been describing. When you allow the alignment of emotions and thoughts, that’s when what I call the spiritual body comes alive. It’s not forced, it’s not about “connecting” to something outside of you. It simply becomes who you are—it’s all part of you.

When your physical intelligence, emotional intelligence, mental intelligence, and inner intelligence come into synergy, there’s a oneness that emerges from within. It’s like giving birth to something new inside yourself. This oneness embraces all of you—your physical body, emotional body, etheric body, and consciousness. It expands and expands.

When you connect with that oneness, you reconnect to the center of creation. You align with the unique essence of why you are here on Earth. And that’s what keeps you living with purpose. For me, that alignment is what true leadership looks like.

You talk about the alignment of body, mind, spirit, and emotions. How do we actually do that? What does the process look like?

Lilly Wong: The first step is simple: stop. We live in a world where we’re always rushing—I want this, I need that. But you have to stop, breathe, and begin by getting to know your body. Set the intention: I want to listen.

Observation is the key. How does your body work? How does it support you? What truly nourishes you? People often ask if I’m vegetarian, vegan, Vedic, or keto. My answer is: I’m a body listener. If you want a fancier name, call it audio decor—listening to the body because your body knows what supports your evolution at this moment in time.

So start with the body. Then move into the emotions. I keep an emotional diary. I notice: Where do I feel this emotion? Is it warm? Cold? Expansive? Heavy? Every detail matters.

Do the same with your thoughts. Which thoughts are repetitive? Which beliefs have you carried without question? I invite people to make lists of what they think they like or dislike. Then test those beliefs.

For example, I used to say, I don’t like cats. Later, I realized that wasn’t true—it was a belief I inherited from my mother. She had once cared for a cat that died, and she was afraid of causing harm. But it wasn’t my truth. Today, I live with two beautiful cats.

Another example: For years, I said, ‘One of my greatest passions is horseback riding.’ At 18, that was true—riding was the only time I felt free. But later I realized I already feel free all the time. I still love horses, but it’s no longer my core passion.

So much of what we believe about ourselves isn’t actually ours. By questioning and releasing those inherited myths—whether about food, preferences, or identity—we clear space.

When you do this work across body, emotions, and thoughts, alignment happens naturally. It’s not forced. Something inside simply integrates and becomes one.

I’ve gone through seasons of questioning every belief I held—asking, Do I really believe this? Do I want to believe this? Back in 2008, when I left the ministry, I spent a year in that process. One thing I noticed was how I interacted with people—I grew up believing strangers were dangerous, but when I challenged that and began talking to people, I felt expansive, like something opened inside me. I love what you’re describing. Talk to me about this phrase you use: “uniqueness in oneness.” Why do you describe it that way, and why is it important for us to understand?

Lilly Wong: Growing up in Mexico, in a very macho culture, I was constantly fighting to prove myself. First, I just wanted to be equal to the men around me. Then it became, I have to be better than them. I thought that was the only way to secure a career and a future.

But underneath, I was still in the mindset of becoming someone. At some point, during my transformation, I realized—it’s not a war. There’s nothing to fight. I don’t need to be better or worse, the same or completely different. I just need to be me.

That’s when I began to understand uniqueness. Each of us carries an inborn intelligence that makes us who we are. The question becomes: What makes you unique?

People sometimes think focusing on themselves sounds selfish. But it’s not. When you align body, emotions, and thoughts, you start to feel your uniqueness—and the more you feel it, the more it naturally expresses itself in oneness.

It’s a paradox: the deeper you go into your own uniqueness, the more you realize you are part of the whole. That’s when the phrase “we are one” stops being an abstract idea and becomes a lived experience.

I’ve heard about oneness for years, but a few months ago, during a psilocybin journey, I truly experienced it for the first time. It was life-changing—I felt it, saw it, knew it. I’ve always believed we are all divine, created by the Divine, but actually feeling it was another level. So, when I embrace my uniqueness in the context of oneness, how does that change my life?

Lilly Wong: First of all, you begin interacting differently with others. You can’t help but see their uniqueness. And when you recognize that, competition falls away. There’s no need for it anymore—you’re unique, I’m unique.

From there, the invitation is to co-create. For me, collaboration is still based on the idea that we’re the same, so let’s do something together. Co-creation is different. It arises from the experience of uniqueness in oneness: I am me, you are you, and together let’s bring forth something new.

When we meet in that place, it’s not just the two of us. All the intelligences, energies, and consciousness that support that moment come and join us. That’s when creation becomes explosive—when uniqueness in oneness becomes tangible, something we can share and enjoy here on Earth.

Talk to me about your art. What is the vision behind these beautiful and powerful creations?

Lilly Wong: My art is my way of giving voice to all the layers of reality—the dimensions, geometries, and unseen structures that exist behind everything. That’s why they take the form of collages: because there are so many elements, many layers, all woven together.

These are digital collages that you create, and then they’re printed on high-quality paper, right?

Lilly Wong: Yes. The technology available now makes it possible to go far beyond the standard four-color process. Some prints use 14 to 21 colors, which makes them so pristine. I’m deeply grateful for that technology, because it allows me to express—in a tangible way—the many layers I perceive.

That’s why my work has to be layered. It’s never just one image. They represent layers of reality, geometries, and energy. Many pieces are born during group meditations or planetary events. In those moments, my voice can only express part of what I perceive, but the art allows me to capture more layers. Each piece becomes a transmitter of energy in whatever space it’s displayed.

And people can purchase your artwork on your website, or even commission you to create or customize pieces, correct?

Lilly Wong: Yes, exactly.

You mentioned earlier that you speak multiple languages. I’ve read you speak six—is that true?

Lilly Wong: It’s been a beautiful journey. In school, I was always at the top of my class, except in English—I only got a B. That frustrated me until I realized it was simply because I wasn’t using it. Later, when I studied in the United States, my English improved dramatically.

I lived in Germany for ten years, so I learned German. Those three—Spanish, English, and German—are strong for me. Then, as a child, I spent two and a half years in France, so I speak French at the level of a seven-year-old, but with a very natural accent. I also lived north of Montreal for a time, so my French developed further.

During the two years of the pandemic, I asked myself, What can I do? Many in my community were from Italy, Brazil, and Portugal, so I decided to learn Italian and Portuguese. That shifted everything, because this time I let go of perfectionism. I stopped trying to “master” the language and focused on communicating.

Now, when people in my courses want to express themselves in their own language, I can understand them. Even if I don’t answer as fluently, I can connect. That, for me, is the essence of language: it enhances communication and makes oneness tangible. The more languages we speak, the fewer barriers exist between us.

Beautiful. Talk to me about your mentorship programs. You mentor individuals, but also companies. What does that look like?

Lilly Wong: In one-on-one mentorship, we go deep into the very questions you’ve asked me: How do I break through the myths? How do I find my uniqueness in oneness? I walk with people through that process. I give them tools to hack their own systems, discover what they haven’t yet seen, and bring it into daily life and purpose.

Most people who come to me have already accomplished much, yet feel there’s still more. They’re asking, Why do I still feel incomplete? I help them find what is waiting to be birthed through them—often in service to others.

With companies, it has to be purpose-driven. I look for organizations that help people grow, improve their health, or step into their uniqueness. Then I use my abilities to support them—sometimes by bringing in the right people, other times by seeing possibilities they hadn’t considered. My work is always about aligning everything to serve the higher good.

Where can people connect with you online for support and to follow your work?

Lilly Wong: The best way is through my website Lilly-Wong.com. From there, you can find all my social media links (LinkedIn, Instagram, Pinterest) and choose how you’d like to connect.

Lilly Wong, Mother of Myth-Breaking—and maybe also “Mystical Mover of Hands.” The way you communicate, even with your hands, is magical. Thank you for your wisdom, your story, and the great work you’re doing in the world. I’m so grateful.

Lilly Wong: Thank you.