An Unexpected Encounter: A Conversation About Our Divine Design and Jesus – An Interview with Lorie Ladd

What if the future isn’t asking us to become someone new — but to remember who we’ve always been?

Many of us can feel it. The old ways of living don’t quite fit anymore. Not because we’ve failed or fallen behind, but because something quieter and deeper is asking for our attention.

In this conversation, Lorie Ladd speaks to that feeling with honesty and calm clarity. She reflects on awakening, intuition, and what it means to return to a more natural, organic relationship with God, consciousness, and healing. Her path has moved through many spiritual frameworks, but it keeps circling back to the same simple truth: there comes a moment when seeking ends — and listening begins.

And perhaps that moment is closer than we think.

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What do you sense is unfolding in our world today? As you look at what’s happening geopolitically, spiritually, and economically, what do you feel is happening right now?

Lorie Ladd: Lately, I’ve been feeling into these two timelines that it feels like humanity is splitting into more and more. I call them the organic and inorganic timelines.

The organic timeline feels like a return to our divine nature—a deeper connection to God, to simplicity, to stillness. It’s a remembering of the natural, innate ways we were designed to live. And then there’s this other pull, almost like a magnetic force, keeping us locked into the inorganic timeline we’ve been in for thousands of years.

I really feel this split happening. It’s like humanity’s shoulders are being shaken, saying, “It’s time to wake up—and not just wake up, but start choosing differently.” Almost choosing the opposite of how the world has been pushing us along.

I think this shift will happen because people are getting sick and tired of being sick and tired. There’s going to be a subtle but profound change—one where we start to notice simplicity again, where our divine nature, however you define God, begins to come back online.

So when you say “organic” and “inorganic,” how would you define those two timelines?

Lorie Ladd: The organic timeline is the natural evolutionary path we were designed to walk. It’s subtle, like your hair growing. It happens quietly, organically. There are innate ways we naturally know how to live—being outside, being in nature, slowing down, being kind, creative, authentic, and still.

These are very basic, natural ways of being that we’ve been programmed not to live. And the programming is so deep that we don’t even realize we’re programmed.

The inorganic timeline is the opposite. It’s staying busy all the time, chasing goals, focusing on the external instead of the internal. Everything you want is “out there.” There’s this constant stimulation, this addictive nervous system upheaval that just doesn’t feel natural.

Over time, I think we’re going to start saying, “Wait a second—something’s off.” As the programming unravels, we’ll remember that our natural state is organic. That’s the true timeline of evolution.

But it’s going to be uncomfortable, because it means pulling away from how the world tells us to function—how we’re told to make money, be successful, and define ourselves. We’re so distracted and addicted to everything, and that’s part of the inorganic system, too.

Think about authenticity. The organic timeline asks, “Who am I, really?” The inorganic is fake. It says, “Don’t have your own voice. Don’t be creative. Follow this script.” It plays out in every system we’re part of.

I think we’re going to see this split more and more in the coming years. We have to—it’s our evolution. We’re being called back to the organic timeline we stepped away from about 7,000 years ago.

It’s a pivot. And honestly, it’s exciting. I love it. I finally feel like there’s tangible proof that this is actually happening—that visceral sense of, “Wow, consciousness really is shifting.”

At the same time, it’s terrifying. You wonder, “Are we going to be able to do this? What is it going to look like?” It’s fascinating to witness.

I love how simply and clearly you explained that. It’s so easy to feel it. I’d love to hear about your own journey of awakening. If we start with your childhood, did you grow up with any sense of spirituality or faith? How did that unfold for you?

Lorie Ladd: My parents divorced when I was about five or six, and I lived with my mom. She was very spiritual, but in a New Age kind of way. She would spend time with Louise Hay, and she was really into aliens—this was the early to mid-eighties, when talking about that kind of thing made you seem completely crazy.

I devoured all of it. The books, the information. I went to retreats with her. We were having these wild experiences—learning about off-planet realities, watching videos about JFK, and what really happened. My mind was blown by the time I was thirteen.

Then I’d go to school and say things like, “Do you realize the government lies to us, and there’s going to be an awakening someday?” Everyone thought I was crazy. But I knew it in my being. Even though most people around me—and the world at large—weren’t there yet, I knew it was real.

I was born with this innate knowing that we’re in a shift. And I was born to a mother who nurtured that curiosity instead of shutting it down. It was never, “You’re crazy.” It was always openness and exploration.

So I’ve always been awake and aware. The real question was whether I’d have the courage to step fully into what I was here to do. That didn’t really happen until I was about forty. I didn’t fully begin my work on the planet until I was forty-three.

What was your career path before that?

Lorie Ladd: Oh my gosh. I loved psychology. I studied it, got my master’s degree, and worked with kids. I did therapy and worked in wilderness programs where you take kids out into nature for a month at a time.

I was on track for a PhD, but I burned out. Completely. So I made a hard right turn and became an executive assistant in private equity firms—for about ten years.

That is a serious right turn.

Lorie Ladd: Totally. It was like, “Let’s do the exact opposite.” But I actually loved it. It was a completely different world. Watching how people played with money like it was Monopoly—it was fascinating.

Because I see everything as a game, it was just me playing another version of the game. And it was while I was working in private equity that I finally felt it clearly: “I need to get to work. It’s time.”

Did intuitive gifts or experiences play a role in your journey, or was it more an inner knowing about what was happening in the world?

Lorie Ladd: It was more of an absolute knowing—like knowing your own name. If you’d asked fourteen-year-old me what was happening on the planet, I could have said essentially what I shared earlier, just without the language I have now.

There was always this deep knowingness. I was intuitive, yes—I could read people. I could sense their inner world, what they really meant beneath their words. I could read their psyche in a way. But it wasn’t something I was especially focused on or excited about. It was just there.

It wasn’t until I started doing my work—my service work for the planet—that I realized I could channel. And when that happened, it felt almost supernatural. I mean, I practiced, but it was more like, “Oh, this is what I’m supposed to do.”

Everything in my life since starting this work has felt like that, as long as I commit and say yes, things just open. It comes naturally. It’s not something I feel like I have to study or work really hard at. Every signpost along my path appears once I say yes.

Even the book I wrote—it just happened. I didn’t plan to write a book. I didn’t set out saying, “I want to channel a book,” as I do now with my next one. I didn’t decide I wanted to write a book with Jesus. Everything just unfolds, and somehow I know how to do it once I say yes.

So when channeling came online, I was like, “Wow, this is pretty cool.” And that’s when I really began working deeply with people—one-on-one, in groups, online. And then came the trip to Machu Picchu, where I started hearing these galactic beings come through, and I was like, “What is happening?”

Take me there. When was that trip to Machu Picchu, and what happened? I want to hear the backstory of The Divine Design.

Lorie Ladd: I don’t even remember exactly where I was living—I think I was still in Mount Shasta. I had just started dating this guy, and he asked if I wanted to go to Machu Picchu. Honestly, I had zero desire to go. It was never on my list.

At that point, I wasn’t writing a book. I wasn’t planning to write a book.

You were working full-time with individuals at that point, though?

Lorie Ladd: Yes, full-time. I was channeling in Mount Shasta, working with all kinds of galactic beings, individual clients, and groups. But I didn’t have a big plan or a vision for where it was all going.

This guy really wanted to get activated. He wanted to go to a powerful place. I was like, “Okay, whatever, I’ll go—it’ll be fun.” I had no expectations, which I’ve learned is so important on this path.

When we arrived, my body reacted immediately. It was like something inside me knew—something is happening here. And the day we drove up the mountain, I started hearing voices. It was a group of beings, and my entire body shifted into this incredibly high-frequency state—so intense that I could barely function. That’s never happened to me before or since.

Did you tell him what was happening?

Lorie Ladd: I did. But he wasn’t supportive at all. He was actually very jealous. And the irony was that I didn’t come here wanting this—he did. That’s why he wanted to go. And yet it was happening to me.

You could feel his jealousy, and it was really upsetting. But the experience was so strong that I was able to anchor into it and continue on my own. Still, he wasn’t supportive at all.

You didn’t end up marrying him, I assume?

Lorie Ladd: No, no. That ended pretty quickly after the trip. You really get to know someone when you travel with them.

So we’re on the bus, and I’m kind of freaking out, telling him what I’m hearing. They were saying I was going to write a book about the history of the planet, the history of Earth. That I would travel around the world talking about it, and be brought to different places.

I was like, “What?” It felt right, but I had no idea what it meant or who these beings even were.

That afternoon, I took some time alone and just sat. I pulled out my phone, hit record, and started talking. I just downloaded all this information—about Earth’s history, galactic beings, and ancient civilizations. I remember thinking, “This is so cool.”

I was told very clearly not to research or go on YouTube. This was 2018, before social media was what it is now, which honestly would have made it much harder.

How much of the information that came through for the book did you already have, given that you’d been exploring these ideas since childhood? How much of it was general knowledge you already knew?

Lorie Ladd: Very little—and that actually made the book really difficult to write. I swear, when I started my second book, I was like, please make this one easy, because the first one was filled with information I had never heard before.

I didn’t know how DNA worked. I didn’t know how DNA was created. I didn’t know how the body was designed. There was so much information that was completely new to me.

I knew the basics—I knew about galactic energies, dimensions, the foundations—but the details? None. So I’d have to sit there while they dropped this information in. And the way it came through was strange. It wasn’t like traditional channeling, where you’re just transcribing what’s being said. It was more like someone speaking a foreign language and bringing these really complex concepts to my attention.

Then I’d have to unpack them. I’d start drawing diagrams—trying to visually understand what they were saying—just to translate it into something I could write about. It took a long time. And then I edited it, and edited it again, and again.

Sometimes they would show me the information through images, almost like movie scenes. I’d close my eyes and see it. For example, in the chapter about abductions—those that began thousands of years ago—they showed me a room, how it happened, and what they did with the body. It was like watching a movie, and that made those chapters easier to write because I was just describing what I was shown.

Other chapters, like the DNA chapter, were much harder. I remember one concept coming through in the middle of the night. I had to wake up and write immediately, or it would be gone. You know that feeling—you think you’ll remember in the morning, and then you wake up, and it’s completely gone.

It was a really wild ride writing that book.

And you know what’s interesting? When I look back at the last eight or nine years of my work, I can see that I was constantly being prepared for what came next—even though I had no idea what that was at the time.

I was in Mount Shasta, training, essentially—learning to channel, getting clear on my ego, understanding what was actually coming through versus what was mine. But I didn’t know I was preparing for that book. It’s fascinating to see how it all lines up in hindsight.

Even now, as I’m writing my current book, I can see how the last two years prepared me for this moment. It’s why I always say there are no mistakes. We may not like how things are unfolding, or wish they were different, but there’s always a bigger plan preparing us for what’s next.

And how amazing is it that this guy asked you to go to Machu Picchu?

Lorie Ladd: And that I said yes, which is very much my personality. I’m like, “Sure, why not?”

It’s wild. I love watching how things unfold, because it always seems like when I don’t plan, the highest outcome appears. It’s as if my divine blueprint is set up so that as long as I stay out of the way and don’t try to control everything, what’s meant to happen just shows up.

The next step on my path of service always arises in the strangest ways. And thank God we don’t know what’s coming—because it allows us to stay open. Miracles are always better than our plans.

Of course, we want to plan. We want things to go the way we think they should.

But somehow, it’s always better than that.

Once The Divine Design was complete and ready, what was that moment like for you? Were you sharing it openly, or was there anxiety—like, “What if people think I’m crazy?” What did that publishing process feel like?

Lorie Ladd: No, I was not confident at all. And honestly, confidence has been one of my greatest inner pieces of work—it’s something I’m still working on. It’s actually been a big factor in how much I allow myself to teach, because when confidence wavers, it can hold me back.

I really wish the version of me now had been the version releasing the book back in 2022. But of course, it was all part of the lesson.

I was very insecure. I believed everything in the book. I knew it was true. I knew it was our history, and I knew the work itself was beautiful. But I also knew how complex it was. I knew it would challenge many foundational beliefs within the spiritual community. And I knew it would go over a lot of people’s heads—for a while.

I had this sense that the book would really find its place ten or fifteen years down the road, as more people began to wake up. Because of that, I wasn’t out there shouting it from the rooftops. And sure, part of me wishes I had—but it was all perfect.

What I do know is that the book has been incredibly well-received around the world. It’s already been published in other countries and translated into other languages, which feels like such a gift.

What surprised me the most was how activating it is. When people read it, it activates their DNA. It triggers remembrance—because it’s not just my story, it’s our story. We’re in a kind of amnesia right now, and when you read a part of your own story, something switches on.

Truth is energetic. Our DNA is energetic—it’s light, it’s information. And when we take in information that is true at that level, it activates that light within us. People feel it. They remember.

That’s what I started hearing from readers all over the world: “Your book activated me.” “I was crying the entire time.” “This was the missing piece.” Message after message. That’s when I realized it wasn’t really about me at all—it was something much bigger.

I think it’s a book that will continue to circulate for a very long time. It offers remembrance of how this whole experiment began—how Earth began, how we began, and why. The entire journey, from the beginning to where we are now.

I have a lot more confidence in it now.

How do you navigate hearing other spiritual teachers share different versions of history—downloads or truths that don’t necessarily align with yours?

Lorie Ladd: One of the qualities I genuinely appreciate about myself is my humility.

I know my truths, and I hold them as truth—until they change. And they always change. I allow them to evolve. And I also allow everyone else to have their truths.

Because at the end of the day, do we really know? I mean, truly know? Not until we’re off this planet and back in the greater realm of consciousness. Until then, we’re all interpreting.

We can channel information. We can form theories. We can try to understand what all of this is. But ultimately, we don’t know for sure. And I hold that as a foundation when I speak, when I teach, and when I’m in conversation with others.

There are endless ways to approach any subject, with millions of different perspectives. To think that only one version is “right”—you just can’t do that.

Is there anything in the book that, looking back now, you feel differently about—or that has expanded or shifted as your perspective has evolved? Or do you feel clear that this is exactly what was meant to come through?

Lorie Ladd: I see the book as the foundation of the whole game. Because of that, there really isn’t much wiggle room where I think, “Oh, maybe I got that wrong.”

It’s very clear—this is how the body was designed, this is why we have an energetic system, this is why we have DNA. In that sense, it’s solid.

The book is almost like a CliffNotes version. It’s very basic, even though the material itself is complex. For example, you could take a single chapter—say, how we consume energy into the body—and go in eight different directions with it. Some endless interpretations and opinions could branch off from just one chapter.

So the book stays foundational. It doesn’t go deeply into every possible layer or perspective—it sets the groundwork. And because of that, I really stand by it.

Our consciousness evolves, our awareness changes, what we know expands—but there’s nothing I look back on and think, “That feels off,” or “I wish I had said that differently.”

So, no revised edition coming anytime soon?

Lorie Ladd: No revised edition. Thank God. I’m done.

I want to pivot and talk about Jesus—someone a few people may have heard of. There are so many different perspectives and experiences of him. What is your relationship with Jesus? When were you introduced to him, and who is Jesus to you?

Lorie Ladd: What a turn of events, right? My work has kind of pivoted from galactic channeling and The Divine Design to the Jesus Speaks book, which is fascinating.

I was never religious. As I said, I was very New Age spiritual. I was all about the galactic, about uncovering what we’re not told. Religion just never interested me—it wasn’t my world.

About two and a half years ago, though, I got curious about Jesus. I thought, if there were one person I’d want to study—someone who could teach me how to be God-like in human form—it would be Jesus. I really felt like he nailed it.

That’s quite a statement—he nailed it.

Lorie Ladd: That’s how I saw him at the time. I see him very differently now, but back then, that was my perception.

I had this realization: I don’t want to die without becoming as God-like as possible while being human. I didn’t want to reach my deathbed thinking, “I didn’t challenge myself enough. I didn’t really try.” So I decided to train, to focus, to learn.

That’s when I invited Jesus into my life—about two and a half years ago. And, as we talked about earlier, I had no expectations. I had no idea what would unfold.

Was there a specific event or influence that sparked that curiosity?

Lorie Ladd: Yes, my best friend was going through breast cancer. During her journey, she began talking about Jesus and the miracles happening in her life.

That got my attention. She wasn’t someone who had been into Jesus either. She invited him in during her cancer journey, and these miraculous things started happening—little things, big things. And I was listening to her stories, thinking, “Wait, that really happened? And then that happened?”

All of this was happening in her life as she was navigating cancer. I had always thought of Jesus as something very religious, and that just wasn’t my thing. But hearing her experience made me pause.

I thought, “There might be something to this.”

So one afternoon, I was in the bath, and I remember it so clearly. I said, “Okay, Jesus…” And because I channel, I already knew how to open myself up and listen…

Don’t you think you should’ve had your clothes on the first time you were hanging out with Jesus? I mean, come on.

Lorie Ladd: Dude. I know. And the funny thing is, I connect with him in the bath all the time. I’m like, this is so weird. But he’s not in the bath—we’re not bathing together. He’s more like in the curtain area, behind the curtain.

And honestly, being in water is actually a really good conduit for dropping into higher realms. But anyway, I was in the bath—that’s when I decided to call him in. And I said, “I really want to study under you. I want you to teach me. I’ll do anything—I want to learn.”

And he came in immediately. He was right there. So easy to feel. So easy to hear. For me, it was like, “Oh… damn. Okay.”

The first initiations were very simple. He said, “Just call me in every day. Start talking to me.” And I was like, “That’s easy. I can do that.”

So for about a year and a half, I just got to know him—calling him in, sitting with him, inviting him into my car. My passenger seat—not the baby seat.

Baby Jesus. You started with baby Jesus.

Lorie Ladd: Exactly. Baby Jesus in the car seat. Oh my God, it’s hilarious. And honestly, he would find that funny.

So then, in December of 2024, things really shifted. And here’s the thing—God, to me, had always been very abstract. I didn’t even like using the word “God.” I’d say “the universe.” God wasn’t something I imagined as visceral or experiential. It was more conceptual.

But as I spent time with Jesus, he introduced me to a very different experience of God—this external light. And when I felt it, I knew immediately: this is different. This is not what I’ve known my whole life.

On December 20, 2024, I was sitting at my desk, and I said, “Jesus, God—I commit my entire life to you both. My service work, my focus, my drive, everything I offer. I want it all to be about you.”

That night, I was attacked demonically—so intensely that I had to call 911 and go to the ER. I didn’t believe in demons. I had never believed in demons. And that was one of the scariest nights of my life.

The next day, I got on my knees and asked God to come in and remove whatever was there. That was the first time I truly felt the power of God’s light—this consciousness. And that moment changed everything.

From 2025 on, I got very serious. My path was no longer about what I wanted, but about how God could work through me, how Jesus could continue to teach me.

Again, I had no expectations. I didn’t know what this meant. I was like, “Am I supposed to be religious now? Do I go to church?” I had to really peel apart what was happening.

All I knew was that the more I spent time with Jesus, the more miracles happened. The more peace I felt. The calmer I became. The more compassion I had. All these things started shifting—exactly what I had asked him to teach me.

Then, in August, he came into my room one night and said it was time to write. He told me, “It’s go time. We’re getting to work together.”

That night I wrote about twenty pages. He said we were going to write a book together—about the God particle. And he asked me, “Will you commit?”

I said yes.

Since then, it’s been full speed ahead. I shut out the world. I’ve been sitting in my office day after day, getting trained, initiated, learning how to hear, how to write, how to listen.

My entire life has changed. He healed a severe addiction I’d had for twenty-five years—overnight. No struggle. No process. Just gone.

He taught me how to fast. How to pray. He helped remove deep limiting beliefs. But here’s what’s important: I’m still responsible for my life.

Even after miracles, I still have choices. Limiting thoughts may still arise. I still decide how I show up every day. Miracles aren’t disempowering—they don’t remove responsibility. They just remove the weight.

What’s so profound about working with Jesus is how instantly he can take something from you. It’s just gone. You’re like, “Wait… what happened to that?”

That’s not even the core teaching of the book we’re writing—but it’s a beautiful part of being with him every day.

So, who is Jesus in the context of The Divine Design?

Lorie Ladd: Jesus’s role is to realign us with God—the Creator outside of us—and reconnect us to that source. To plug us back into the Creator’s light and help us remember our natural state.

It’s very similar to the organic timeline I talked about earlier. He’s here to guide us back to that organic way of being—where we live from compassion, kindness, empathy, and love.

When you strip away the religious dogma, what he’s really addressing are the behaviors and strongholds that keep us disconnected from God. We look to external things—success, money, validation, comfort—to fill needs that only a source can.

Peace, love, joy, safety—those come from that divine light. When we’re connected to it, we feel whole. Then we go live our lives. We enjoy relationships, beauty, creativity—but those things aren’t the source.

Jesus came to remind us of what we forgot. To help us descend that holy light back into ourselves and return to our natural state.

When you look at it through the lens of the organic and inorganic timelines, it becomes very clear. The organic path asks: Are my behaviors aligned with God, with oneness, with truth?

The inorganic path pulls us outward—toward validation, achievement, external security.

We’ve been programmed to live externally. Jesus came to interrupt that pattern and guide us home.

Do you worship Jesus?

Lorie Ladd: No, I don’t worship Jesus. I’m in awe of him, and I’m deeply grateful for the relationship I have with him. I’m humbled to be able to speak about him and to share how I experience him.

But worship? No. And honestly, the way I see it, he wouldn’t want that. It would be very odd. He would probably look at me like, “What are you doing? That’s not what we’re doing here.”

I’ve never felt a desire to worship him, and I’ve never experienced that as something he wants. It’s more like being in the presence of a master—someone with unwavering compassion and unconditional love—who isn’t going anywhere, isn’t turning their back, and is simply there to teach you, guide you, and help you remember.

That’s how I experience him. That’s how I relate to him. So no, I don’t worship him.

Editor’s Note: At this point in the conversation, David shares his experience with Jesus and a profound channeled message comes through for Lorie. This is available in the audio and video versions of the interview, which are available by scrolling to the top of this page.

You’re supporting people in many different ways. You have the School of Remembrance, you offer classes and workshops—how can people step into your work and walk this journey with you?

Lorie Ladd: My School of Remembrance is an online, monthly subscription community, and it’s honestly beautiful. What we’re really focusing on right now is integrating the light of God—learning how to be more God-like in everyday life, and what that actually looks like in real, human terms.

At the moment, I’m primarily offering two core classes.

One is a Jesus-focused class, where the intention is very simple: to let people feel Jesus. Not stories, not theology, not programs—just his presence. Many people have never actually felt him before, and something profound happens when they do.

The second is what I call the God class, and it’s blowing my mind. It’s about inviting in divine source light and allowing it to move through us. For forty days, we sit together every day for thirty minutes. That’s it. No teaching. No concepts. Just intentional presence.

When God first asked me to teach this class, I thought, «This is weird—and really long.» I had never done anything like forty days straight. I had no idea what would happen.

But the testimonials have been overwhelming. I’ve done the class twice now, and people tell me things like: I stopped smoking. I stopped drinking. My marriage shifted. I feel peace for the first time.

And I’m like—I’m not doing anything. I’m not teaching anything. I’m just holding space. It made me realize how simple this really is.

That simplicity is also what I hear in what you’re describing about healing. We’re moving into an organic timeline—where frequency, presence, and love do the work. Someone receives it and walks away changed without needing to understand how or why.

This is the direction I feel humanity is heading. We don’t have to do all the things we’ve spent our lives doing to heal anymore. It can be much simpler.

Where can people find you—your website and social media?

Lorie Ladd: Super simple. All you can find on my website, and there you can find a link to my social media.

And I’m excited that you’ll be speaking at New Living Expo this April. What will you be sharing there?

Lorie Ladd: I’ll be talking about the God particle—what it is, why it exists within us, how it becomes activated, and why we haven’t really heard about it.

I’ll also be speaking about the spiritual battle on the planet, how it’s played a role in obscuring this inner knowing, and what begins to shift as we start remembering again.

This will actually be my first public talk sharing this new information, so I’m really excited.

That’s amazing. NewLivingExpo.com for tickets. Lorie, what an extraordinary conversation. Thank you for the work you’re doing, for your courage, and for sharing your story so openly. We’re looking forward to meeting you in person at the Expo.

Lorie Ladd: Thank you, David. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me.